If our starting point for this forum becomes the Declaration, Constitution, and Bill of Rights; but not case law nor some Manifesto, I'm in...
1. Is there a way to speed the "finding process" "for all who value freedom"? Databases, donor lists, 501(c)(3)'s, NGO's...
2. You mentioned about being able "to pledge our lives, fortunes, and sacred honor"... , that means we need to have moral people. So we have alot of re-teaching to do. Christian Bibles are good, pamphlets were one of the most important conveyors of ideas during our 1750-1760's imperial crisis... which media(s) should we use now?
3. On your last bullet point, IMHO if moral constitutionalists are voted into majority in all 3 branches for 12 or more years we can bring it back. Less time I think will get only part done.
Part reclaimed is better that what we have now.
4. Heritage Foundation has significant progress on many issues similar to your framework goals stated above. We should contact them.
Thank you for your comments. On #5 I was referring to the kind of government we are heading towards, which if victorious is likely to erase and cancel anyone and any materials they don’t like. Let’s not let them win. I’ll check out the Heritage Foundation for sure!
Sir, this is excellent. Very similar considerations were made in 1776, and it is exciting to consider them again for how we may reset and build an even stronger, more resilient system than our brilliant forefathers were able to by examining our history and learning from it.
I am reminded of a story I once heard about how the senate came into being. Originally, there was only the House until one day two of our forefathers (I wish I could remember which ones) were sitting together drinking tea.
One of these two wanted a second legislative body, and in order to convince the other to agree, he poured his boiling hot tea into his saucer (which is what saucers were originally intended for), in order to cool it before drinking.
As he did so he impressed upon his companion that a second house was needed for the same reason his saucer was needed: to give tempers a chance to cool before a bill could become law.
His worry was that the house in its passion would recklessly pass legislation in the heat of the moment with little consideration of its consequence, and thus the senate was born - to slow the process down and allow cooler heads to prevail.
Your story was very intriguing, so I did a lot of digging. It might be a fictional simile, but it is an interesting and fun story repeatedly handed down over the years and usually begins with something like this:
The “Senatorial saucer” conversation between George Washington and Thomas Jefferson is part of U.S. Senate legend. Jefferson had returned from France and was breakfasting with Washington. Jefferson asked Washington why he agreed to have a Senate.
“Why,” said Washington, “did you just now pour that coffee into your saucer before drinking it?”
“To cool it,” said Jefferson; “my throat is not made of brass.”
“Even so,” said Washington, “we pour our legislation into the Senatorial saucer to cool it.”
If our starting point for this forum becomes the Declaration, Constitution, and Bill of Rights; but not case law nor some Manifesto, I'm in...
1. Is there a way to speed the "finding process" "for all who value freedom"? Databases, donor lists, 501(c)(3)'s, NGO's...
2. You mentioned about being able "to pledge our lives, fortunes, and sacred honor"... , that means we need to have moral people. So we have alot of re-teaching to do. Christian Bibles are good, pamphlets were one of the most important conveyors of ideas during our 1750-1760's imperial crisis... which media(s) should we use now?
3. On your last bullet point, IMHO if moral constitutionalists are voted into majority in all 3 branches for 12 or more years we can bring it back. Less time I think will get only part done.
Part reclaimed is better that what we have now.
4. Heritage Foundation has significant progress on many issues similar to your framework goals stated above. We should contact them.
5. Authoritarian victor ?? Don't agree.
Thank you for your comments. On #5 I was referring to the kind of government we are heading towards, which if victorious is likely to erase and cancel anyone and any materials they don’t like. Let’s not let them win. I’ll check out the Heritage Foundation for sure!
Sir, this is excellent. Very similar considerations were made in 1776, and it is exciting to consider them again for how we may reset and build an even stronger, more resilient system than our brilliant forefathers were able to by examining our history and learning from it.
I am reminded of a story I once heard about how the senate came into being. Originally, there was only the House until one day two of our forefathers (I wish I could remember which ones) were sitting together drinking tea.
One of these two wanted a second legislative body, and in order to convince the other to agree, he poured his boiling hot tea into his saucer (which is what saucers were originally intended for), in order to cool it before drinking.
As he did so he impressed upon his companion that a second house was needed for the same reason his saucer was needed: to give tempers a chance to cool before a bill could become law.
His worry was that the house in its passion would recklessly pass legislation in the heat of the moment with little consideration of its consequence, and thus the senate was born - to slow the process down and allow cooler heads to prevail.
Your story was very intriguing, so I did a lot of digging. It might be a fictional simile, but it is an interesting and fun story repeatedly handed down over the years and usually begins with something like this:
https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/the_senate_is_the_saucer_into_which_we_pour_legislation_to_cool
The “Senatorial saucer” conversation between George Washington and Thomas Jefferson is part of U.S. Senate legend. Jefferson had returned from France and was breakfasting with Washington. Jefferson asked Washington why he agreed to have a Senate.
“Why,” said Washington, “did you just now pour that coffee into your saucer before drinking it?”
“To cool it,” said Jefferson; “my throat is not made of brass.”
“Even so,” said Washington, “we pour our legislation into the Senatorial saucer to cool it.”
The first evidence of this story appears in 1871.
Well it is still a cool yarn ;)
Thank you for your kind words. The holidays have kept me busy but more content is coming soon. And what a cool story!
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